Cart DB #264: Super Mario 10 (chips)

Notes for chip search:

Use "+" as delimeter for all fields (except "cart name", where space is used); if many values are entered, all of them must appear in the cartridge then; case is not sensitive
"Mapper" is the actual mapper used by this cartridge hardware (might not match the one at wiki.nesdev.com, as at the moment I was analyzing this cartridge, there was no mapper assigned to it, so I had to assign my own number for testing)
"Original mapper" is the mapper used by licensed version of this game (for multicarts, it refers to mapper of the inside games, so 0+2 means this cartridge can run NROM+UNROM games)
Order in which you put values doesn't matter (you can write 7400+74138+7400 or 7400+7400+74138 to search for a cartridge that contains at least two 7400 chips and one 74138
Some chips (like PAL16*8) appear in cartridges as 16V8 or 16L8, so be sure to check both posibilities
Same goes for memories - type 27F080 to search for 32 pin memories, 27512 for 28 pin with two chip enables or MASKROM_1M_DIP28 for 28 pin with one chip enable
Same goes for mappers - some examples: AX5904(MMC1), AX5202P(MMC3), PT8154BM (9112MMC3), AX5208C(VRC4), 23C3662(VRC2)
Good news is that you can use wildcards, so 74139+*MMC3* will search for any cartrige that has at least one 74139 and MMC3 chip in any version

Name	Value
IC1	2C(27512)
IC10	7402 (not soldered)(7402)
IC11	AX5202P(MMC3)
IC2	2732(27512)
IC3	2D(27512)
IC4	27c512(27512)
IC5	7400
IC6	74138
IC7	7432
IC8	7400
IC9	74138
C1	-
CART1	FAMICOM_CART
JP1	CLS

Name

Value

IC1

2C(27512)

IC10

7402 (not soldered)(7402)

IC11

IC2

IC3

IC4

IC5

IC6

IC7

IC8

IC9

CART1

FAMICOM_CART

JP1

CLS

http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19284 While checking the original releases of the infamous Super Bros. hacks, I remembered that my two copies of the Jackie Chan one (Super Bros. 10) had different PCBs. The small one revealed to be M196, like most of those hacks. However the large one, which at first was a candidate for an original print with an obscure mapper, showed to be just standard MMC3. Was this meant to be a 2-in-1 MMC3 multicart with two 2x128kB games? Clues on the reason for the 4kB UVEPROM? -- I compared [i]Super Bros 10 Kung Fu Mari.nes[/i] against [i]USA\Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu (U).nes[/i] and they seems to be almost same, differences, here are difference regions: PRG: D65B-D698 copyright information cut off F85F-F861 ? FB06-FB08 ? FB0E ? FDF9 ? 1C284, 1C292, 1C737 (*) 1CA8D ? 1CA91 ? 1CAE8 ? 1CF1E ? 1CF23 ? 1DD18, 1E1AB, 1E1B1, 1E1DF, 1E20F, 1E215, 1E29B, 1E2D0, 1E3AC, 1F53B, 1F548, 1F6E8, 1F83A, 1FD72 (*) (*) = those refers to the fact that Jackie Chans Use 8001/E001/C001 while Super Bros 10 - 8005/E005/C005 (which is irrelevant cause for MMC3 is the same) CHR: 2E111-38B9A (less than 64k) No idea why the patch and whole logic instead of just putting EPROMs with altered PRG/CHR. - Ok I think I got it. PRG: Assuming they wanted to patch the above regions marked as (?), they needed to cover those 2 regions: [code] $0f800-$0ffff = 011111xxxxxxxxxxx $1c800-$1cfff = 111001xxxxxxxxxxx |||||| |||||+- CPU A11 ||||+-- CPU A12 |||+--- MMC3 PRG A13 ||+---- MMC3 PRG A14 |+----- MMC3 PRG A15 +------ MMC3 PRG A16 [/code] Which is perfectly done using the following circuit: [url=https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/8796861500_1568569390.png][img]https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/8796861500_1568569390_thumb.jpg[/img][/url] Connecting 2732.A11 to MMC.A16 causes the first 2 kB of 2732 EPROM to store the first region and the second 2kB the other. - CHR: By dividing the whole CHR into eight 16k regions and counting how many bytes in that regions differ shows that there are only four regions that need to be patched. [code] region # diffs $00000-$03fff: 0 000 $04000-$07fff: 0 001 $08000-$0bfff: 0 010 $0c000-$0ffff: 2747 011 - fourth 16k in 27c512 $10000-$13fff: 4660 100 - first 16k in 27c512 $14000-$17fff: 3248 101 - second 16k in 27c512 $18000-$1bfff: 1118 110 - third 16k in 27c512 $1c000-$1ffff: 0 111 ||| ||+- MMC3 CHR A14 |+-- MMC3 CHR A15 +--- MMC3 CHR A16 [/code] Which is perfectly done using the following circuit: [url=https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/9699961000_1568569479.png][img]https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/9699961000_1568569479_thumb.jpg[/img][/url] The missing 7402, if soldered (without 74138/7432/7400) makes the PCB usable as regular MMC3 with two 64K standard CHR-EPROMS. There must be some jumpers underneath CHR-ROM however that disconnects MMC3-CHR-A16 from its pin1. There is no way to read-back unmodified parts of 2C and 2D mask roms without cutting some traces or desoldering them. [url=https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2548495200_1568569616.png][img]https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2548495200_1568569616_thumb.jpg[/img][/url] [url=https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/4597477800_1568569624.png][img]https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/4597477800_1568569624_thumb.jpg[/img][/url]

Cart name		Notes for chip search: Use "+" as delimeter for all fields (except "cart name", where space is used); if many values are entered, all of them must appear in the cartridge then; case is not sensitive "Mapper" is the actual mapper used by this cartridge hardware (might not match the one at wiki.nesdev.com, as at the moment I was analyzing this cartridge, there was no mapper assigned to it, so I had to assign my own number for testing) "Original mapper" is the mapper used by licensed version of this game (for multicarts, it refers to mapper of the inside games, so 0+2 means this cartridge can run NROM+UNROM games) Order in which you put values doesn't matter (you can write 7400+74138+7400 or 7400+7400+74138 to search for a cartridge that contains at least two 7400 chips and one 74138 Some chips (like PAL168) appear in cartridges as 16V8 or 16L8, so be sure to check both posibilities Same goes for memories - type 27F080 to search for 32 pin memories, 27512 for 28 pin with two chip enables or MASKROM_1M_DIP28 for 28 pin with one chip enable Same goes for mappers - some examples: AX5904(MMC1), AX5202P(MMC3), PT8154BM (9112MMC3), AX5208C(VRC4), 23C3662(VRC2) Good news is that you can use wildcards, so 74139+MMC3* will search for any cartrige that has at least one 74139 and MMC3 chip in any version
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